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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I don&#039;t have any tattoos. I work in the field of information systems, with years of experience and several degrees. 

Second, whenever I have several job offers on the table, the first deciding factor of which ones I take is the companies&#039; policies on such things as tattoos, homosexuality,paternity leave, etc.

None of these things effect me directly, but I feel like they all are good signs about whether or not they care about supporting their individual employees.

I will not work with people who disregard hiring someone (or will fire them in the future) based on lifestyle choices that are alternative to their own values. This is the kind of attitude that will eventually stagnate the entire company. Tattoos, piercings, homosexuality, and &quot;alternative&quot; gender  roles (such as men being homemakers) are all becoming more widely acceptable, and by not allowing any visible tattoos or piercings of any kind the amount of people you are ignoring is growing exponentially.

Good luck on your quest to stay in the past, ladies and gentlemen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I don&#8217;t have any tattoos. I work in the field of information systems, with years of experience and several degrees. </p>
<p>Second, whenever I have several job offers on the table, the first deciding factor of which ones I take is the companies&#8217; policies on such things as tattoos, homosexuality,paternity leave, etc.</p>
<p>None of these things effect me directly, but I feel like they all are good signs about whether or not they care about supporting their individual employees.</p>
<p>I will not work with people who disregard hiring someone (or will fire them in the future) based on lifestyle choices that are alternative to their own values. This is the kind of attitude that will eventually stagnate the entire company. Tattoos, piercings, homosexuality, and &#8220;alternative&#8221; gender  roles (such as men being homemakers) are all becoming more widely acceptable, and by not allowing any visible tattoos or piercings of any kind the amount of people you are ignoring is growing exponentially.</p>
<p>Good luck on your quest to stay in the past, ladies and gentlemen.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Tamm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Tamm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most vital thing i think when having ink done is to go to a good tattooist. It&#039;s well worth spending some time finding out who has talent and which parlour has a good reputation - it&#039;s worth spending a few euro more to have peace of mind that your ink is going to be good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most vital thing i think when having ink done is to go to a good tattooist. It&#8217;s well worth spending some time finding out who has talent and which parlour has a good reputation &#8211; it&#8217;s worth spending a few euro more to have peace of mind that your ink is going to be good</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m nearly 39 years old and my tattoos are nearly 17 years old. But from what some are saying I shouldn&#039;t be hired, or if I am, should only be hired as a waitress, construction worker, or sanitation worker.

But I have a college degree and graduated cum laude. I am serious about my profession and about those I serve. I&#039;m a high school teacher. I would be devastated if I were one day told I shouldn&#039;t teach because I have tattoos.

In fact, I may sue over that one. As far as I have heard firing someone because of appearance is discrimination. Just as firing someone over weight, color or religion is discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m nearly 39 years old and my tattoos are nearly 17 years old. But from what some are saying I shouldn&#8217;t be hired, or if I am, should only be hired as a waitress, construction worker, or sanitation worker.</p>
<p>But I have a college degree and graduated cum laude. I am serious about my profession and about those I serve. I&#8217;m a high school teacher. I would be devastated if I were one day told I shouldn&#8217;t teach because I have tattoos.</p>
<p>In fact, I may sue over that one. As far as I have heard firing someone because of appearance is discrimination. Just as firing someone over weight, color or religion is discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Yoest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Yoest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scot, from Virtual CFO, thank you for the track back and analysis on hiring the receptionist who would be the (first) face for your company.

A face really does make a difference -- even which side you show.  See:
http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2006/06/the_camera_loves_you_baby_here.php

Best,
Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scot, from Virtual CFO, thank you for the track back and analysis on hiring the receptionist who would be the (first) face for your company.</p>
<p>A face really does make a difference &#8212; even which side you show.  See:<br />
<a href="http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2006/06/the_camera_loves_you_baby_here.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2006/06/the_camera_loves_you_baby_here.php</a></p>
<p>Best,<br />
Jack</p>
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		<title>By: The Virtual CFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Virtual CFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watch Those Piercing&lt;/strong&gt;

The Small Business Trends blog had a post earlier this week about whether or not you should hire job candidates with body art (Job Candidates With Body Art: Hire Or Not?). I believe that it depends on the position the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Watch Those Piercing</strong></p>
<p>The Small Business Trends blog had a post earlier this week about whether or not you should hire job candidates with body art (Job Candidates With Body Art: Hire Or Not?). I believe that it depends on the position the</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Yoest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Yoest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you&#039;re right, I don&#039;t know if the young women have body art or not -- and I don&#039;t want to know.  Statistically, they will.

I think my sister has a tattoo.  My dad was in the Navy.  I was in the Army.  I&#039;ve hired wild coders and graphics humans of unknown gender.  Eye shadow used to be a clue. I&#039;ve been surrounded by blue ink.

(Which is, as you imply, much better than red ink.)

Zig Ziglar would often say, &quot;You can feed your ego, or you can feed your family.&quot;  And landing a deal might be difficult with distractions, however artful.

But Your Business Blogger does hold for hiring people who are very different -- violating my symmetry and chemistry rule:

http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2005/09/hire_the_homosexual.php

Consistency being the hobgoblin of little minds...

Thanks again,
Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you&#8217;re right, I don&#8217;t know if the young women have body art or not &#8212; and I don&#8217;t want to know.  Statistically, they will.</p>
<p>I think my sister has a tattoo.  My dad was in the Navy.  I was in the Army.  I&#8217;ve hired wild coders and graphics humans of unknown gender.  Eye shadow used to be a clue. I&#8217;ve been surrounded by blue ink.</p>
<p>(Which is, as you imply, much better than red ink.)</p>
<p>Zig Ziglar would often say, &#8220;You can feed your ego, or you can feed your family.&#8221;  And landing a deal might be difficult with distractions, however artful.</p>
<p>But Your Business Blogger does hold for hiring people who are very different &#8212; violating my symmetry and chemistry rule:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2005/09/hire_the_homosexual.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2005/09/hire_the_homosexual.php</a></p>
<p>Consistency being the hobgoblin of little minds&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Jack</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tattoos, Jack.  I have two (actually had 3 but one is a cover-up tattoo over another).  I can see how having tattoos running down both arms, around your wrists or on your neck could affect your employment situation (or lack thereof).  It is a lifestyle - and it is a form of self expression.  I do not regret my tattoos, but they are in places that are either covered up or cannot easily be noticed.  But even though I have them, I must say that I would not walk into a tattoo parlor looking to have one placed on my neck or arms.  I do realize that if I choose to do that - It could, most definitely, affect my employment.  So I can respect your opinions on that matter and do agree to a certain extent.  

But keep this in mind. . .these twenty somethings that are expressing themselves in this way are very open minded, creative, outside-the-box thinkers.  Granting them an employment environment that encourages their expression and  creativity - may lead to some great new things, new ideas, creative technology.  And everyone knows the old saying &quot;Don&#039;t judge a book by it&#039;s cover.&quot;  I know some pretty intimidating and fearsome looking fellas - covered in ink from head to toe in skulls and flames - and they are some of the sweatest people I&#039;ve ever met.  

The days of associating body art with Hell&#039;s Angels and convicts are gone.  Body art has moved out of back alleys and biker rallys and into the suburbs.  And I would guess that at least 60% of today&#039;s college students - tommorrow&#039;s leaders - have at least one example of body art.  And it is quite possible that your recent hires, the attractive young women you referred too in the post, may have you fooled.  They may be sporting a butterfly on their lower back, or a flower on their shoulder - that isn&#039;t meant for everyone&#039;s eyes to see.  Ask around - you may be surprised!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tattoos, Jack.  I have two (actually had 3 but one is a cover-up tattoo over another).  I can see how having tattoos running down both arms, around your wrists or on your neck could affect your employment situation (or lack thereof).  It is a lifestyle &#8211; and it is a form of self expression.  I do not regret my tattoos, but they are in places that are either covered up or cannot easily be noticed.  But even though I have them, I must say that I would not walk into a tattoo parlor looking to have one placed on my neck or arms.  I do realize that if I choose to do that &#8211; It could, most definitely, affect my employment.  So I can respect your opinions on that matter and do agree to a certain extent.  </p>
<p>But keep this in mind. . .these twenty somethings that are expressing themselves in this way are very open minded, creative, outside-the-box thinkers.  Granting them an employment environment that encourages their expression and  creativity &#8211; may lead to some great new things, new ideas, creative technology.  And everyone knows the old saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t judge a book by it&#8217;s cover.&#8221;  I know some pretty intimidating and fearsome looking fellas &#8211; covered in ink from head to toe in skulls and flames &#8211; and they are some of the sweatest people I&#8217;ve ever met.  </p>
<p>The days of associating body art with Hell&#8217;s Angels and convicts are gone.  Body art has moved out of back alleys and biker rallys and into the suburbs.  And I would guess that at least 60% of today&#8217;s college students &#8211; tommorrow&#8217;s leaders &#8211; have at least one example of body art.  And it is quite possible that your recent hires, the attractive young women you referred too in the post, may have you fooled.  They may be sporting a butterfly on their lower back, or a flower on their shoulder &#8211; that isn&#8217;t meant for everyone&#8217;s eyes to see.  Ask around &#8211; you may be surprised!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Yoest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Yoest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, you are right. It would require ability beyond my meager talent to evaluate the entire book beyond the cover.

To overcome my shortcoming, I have been lucky to work with people who could make human resource evaluations looking beyond such external statements.  I trust my managers&#039; judgment.

For example, a few years ago, one of my staff made a hire and the twenty something young man had to work near my area.  He came to work around me with band-aids on his ears.

Now, young Alert Readers know instantly what&#039;s going on.  But not me.  I had to ask his boss, if everything was alright.

&quot;He&#039;s fine,&quot; said the manager.  &quot;He&#039;s just covering up the holes.&quot;  

I was dumbfounded. Which is quite normal. (But of course, I didn&#039;t show it.  Your Business Blogger finds that stern, direct eye contact covers any lack of comprehension and competence.)
http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2005/11/the_first_lesson_in_how_to_loo.php
 
But I was humbled to learn that anyone would care what I thought.  Doesn&#039;t happen much.  Even when I write the checks.

Paul, the young man went on to do outstanding work, as you might have guessed from the wisdom you use on making your hires.  

But they better not smoke around me.

Best,
Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, you are right. It would require ability beyond my meager talent to evaluate the entire book beyond the cover.</p>
<p>To overcome my shortcoming, I have been lucky to work with people who could make human resource evaluations looking beyond such external statements.  I trust my managers&#8217; judgment.</p>
<p>For example, a few years ago, one of my staff made a hire and the twenty something young man had to work near my area.  He came to work around me with band-aids on his ears.</p>
<p>Now, young Alert Readers know instantly what&#8217;s going on.  But not me.  I had to ask his boss, if everything was alright.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s fine,&#8221; said the manager.  &#8220;He&#8217;s just covering up the holes.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I was dumbfounded. Which is quite normal. (But of course, I didn&#8217;t show it.  Your Business Blogger finds that stern, direct eye contact covers any lack of comprehension and competence.)<br />
<a href="http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2005/11/the_first_lesson_in_how_to_loo.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2005/11/the_first_lesson_in_how_to_loo.php</a></p>
<p>But I was humbled to learn that anyone would care what I thought.  Doesn&#8217;t happen much.  Even when I write the checks.</p>
<p>Paul, the young man went on to do outstanding work, as you might have guessed from the wisdom you use on making your hires.  </p>
<p>But they better not smoke around me.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Carney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Carney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is true that the person who cuts the check can make the rules, but I would be careful about setting criteria that may cause you to avoid a candidate who can really do the job well.

I, too, fall out of that age range and I do not have any tattoos. But I have hired people with both tattoos and body piercings and they are exceptional people. One in particular has both the talent to create great graphic designs AND write the application source code to make a Web site run. If I had used a &quot;no tattoo&quot; policy, I would not have found him nor hired him. 

I also know many people use a college degree as a filtering technique. This, too, can lead to some qualified candidates not being considered. The key is to figure out what you are looking for in a person, then add in the &quot;nice to haves&quot; so that you don&#039;t miss out.

Again, I did not say that you wouldn&#039;t find the &quot;best&quot; candidates, because &quot;best&quot; will include your own (important) criteria. The labor market is tight today and I am all for finding great people who have talent, integrity and want to work as part of the team. I cannot afford to exclude some of these folks due to their preferences for expressing themselves through body art, the same way that I don&#039;t care what car they drive, what house they live in, who they hang out with or within acceptable business boundaries, what clothing they wear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is true that the person who cuts the check can make the rules, but I would be careful about setting criteria that may cause you to avoid a candidate who can really do the job well.</p>
<p>I, too, fall out of that age range and I do not have any tattoos. But I have hired people with both tattoos and body piercings and they are exceptional people. One in particular has both the talent to create great graphic designs AND write the application source code to make a Web site run. If I had used a &#8220;no tattoo&#8221; policy, I would not have found him nor hired him. </p>
<p>I also know many people use a college degree as a filtering technique. This, too, can lead to some qualified candidates not being considered. The key is to figure out what you are looking for in a person, then add in the &#8220;nice to haves&#8221; so that you don&#8217;t miss out.</p>
<p>Again, I did not say that you wouldn&#8217;t find the &#8220;best&#8221; candidates, because &#8220;best&#8221; will include your own (important) criteria. The labor market is tight today and I am all for finding great people who have talent, integrity and want to work as part of the team. I cannot afford to exclude some of these folks due to their preferences for expressing themselves through body art, the same way that I don&#8217;t care what car they drive, what house they live in, who they hang out with or within acceptable business boundaries, what clothing they wear.</p>
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