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		<title>By: Martin Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of people would like to be able to reach small business owners. Sounds easy when you say it quickly, but it is much more difficult than it seems. People would also like to be able to communicate with them in a way that really shows that their unique problems are understood. There are probably key inflection points in the life cycle of a business when owners&#039; challenges are more similar than different. But until owners reach those points, your experience would seem to personify the typical situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of people would like to be able to reach small business owners. Sounds easy when you say it quickly, but it is much more difficult than it seems. People would also like to be able to communicate with them in a way that really shows that their unique problems are understood. There are probably key inflection points in the life cycle of a business when owners&#8217; challenges are more similar than different. But until owners reach those points, your experience would seem to personify the typical situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Campbell</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/06/the-downturn-article.html#comment-571505</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim,  wasn&#039;t meaning to imply anything about you or your political leanings!!!  Only to say that we are all products of many interests and concerns in our environments.  Being a small business owner doesn&#039;t make me forget everything else in my environment.  :)

And about that sales tax, I wish we had a sales tax that went to schools, instead of property taxes.  Taxing those who consume, rather than those who save and own property, is not a bad way to go.  Unfortunately, my state keeps trying to soak the homeowners at every turn to the point that voters are in outright revolt when it comes to school levies based on property taxes alone.  Everyone knows the system for funding schools is out of whack, but the legislators do nothing and individual levy votes keep failing.  A better system for funding schools might even be a tax I&#039;d vote for!

Anita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim,  wasn&#8217;t meaning to imply anything about you or your political leanings!!!  Only to say that we are all products of many interests and concerns in our environments.  Being a small business owner doesn&#8217;t make me forget everything else in my environment.  <img src='http://smallbiztrends.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And about that sales tax, I wish we had a sales tax that went to schools, instead of property taxes.  Taxing those who consume, rather than those who save and own property, is not a bad way to go.  Unfortunately, my state keeps trying to soak the homeowners at every turn to the point that voters are in outright revolt when it comes to school levies based on property taxes alone.  Everyone knows the system for funding schools is out of whack, but the legislators do nothing and individual levy votes keep failing.  A better system for funding schools might even be a tax I&#8217;d vote for!</p>
<p>Anita</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my point of view there is no any group of small bussiness owners. But they all have one common goal to get profits, to suceed and the like. And of course they vote not as a group because the group iteself doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my point of view there is no any group of small bussiness owners. But they all have one common goal to get profits, to suceed and the like. And of course they vote not as a group because the group iteself doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ McCue</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/06/the-downturn-article.html#comment-571146</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ McCue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. here&#039;s the link: http://www.allbusiness.com/government/elections-politics-campaigns-elections/10207343-1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://www.allbusiness.com/government/elections-politics-campaigns-elections/10207343-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.allbusiness.com/government/elections-politics-campaigns-elections/10207343-1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: TJ McCue</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ McCue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,
Great post here. I&#039;m going to forward it to a few folks. 

I read an interesting post by Sam Thacker over at AllBusiness.com on what the candidates claim on their websites regarding helping us small biz owners. 
Full disclosure: I&#039;m an advisor/blogger at Allbusiness, but the blog i&#039;m referencing here is not mine.

But i thought it was a good summary, without commenting on the politicians too heavily. And helping SMB folks sort out some of the basics.
TJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,<br />
Great post here. I&#8217;m going to forward it to a few folks. </p>
<p>I read an interesting post by Sam Thacker over at AllBusiness.com on what the candidates claim on their websites regarding helping us small biz owners.<br />
Full disclosure: I&#8217;m an advisor/blogger at Allbusiness, but the blog i&#8217;m referencing here is not mine.</p>
<p>But i thought it was a good summary, without commenting on the politicians too heavily. And helping SMB folks sort out some of the basics.<br />
TJ</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Berry</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/06/the-downturn-article.html#comment-570861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for lots of great follow-up on this post, makes for good reading, great addition to the original. Thanks all.  One thing that makes me (although only slightly so) uncomfortable is the idea that I should be doing a &quot;we&quot; thing as a small business owner, rather than a &quot;me&quot; thing. 

Why? Because my &quot;we&quot; consciousness doesn&#039;t fall on business issues. I&#039;ll vote for what some would call social programs, or environmental concerns, and even higher taxes, whether or not the specifics seem to favor small business ownership. For example, I&#039;ve voted repeatedly against the leanings of the local chamber of commerce (of which my company is a member) because I thought the so-called small business block was short-sighted and selfish. Specifics? I&#039;m against the dreaded tax revolt that&#039;s killing our schools. I wish Oregon, where I live, would institute a sales tax to help the schools, which are really hurting. And I vote that way every time it comes up (we are still one of 5 states that don&#039;t have sales tax). I don&#039;t think that makes me selfish for not joining the &quot;small business&quot; voting block. On the contrary, I think the world would be better off if we all, as small business owners, voted our social and political and economic consciences, not our narrowly-focused business interest. 

But then -- chuckling --  as Anita suggests, I&#039;ve been a left-coast person all my life, I still am, and I can&#039;t help it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for lots of great follow-up on this post, makes for good reading, great addition to the original. Thanks all.  One thing that makes me (although only slightly so) uncomfortable is the idea that I should be doing a &#8220;we&#8221; thing as a small business owner, rather than a &#8220;me&#8221; thing. </p>
<p>Why? Because my &#8220;we&#8221; consciousness doesn&#8217;t fall on business issues. I&#8217;ll vote for what some would call social programs, or environmental concerns, and even higher taxes, whether or not the specifics seem to favor small business ownership. For example, I&#8217;ve voted repeatedly against the leanings of the local chamber of commerce (of which my company is a member) because I thought the so-called small business block was short-sighted and selfish. Specifics? I&#8217;m against the dreaded tax revolt that&#8217;s killing our schools. I wish Oregon, where I live, would institute a sales tax to help the schools, which are really hurting. And I vote that way every time it comes up (we are still one of 5 states that don&#8217;t have sales tax). I don&#8217;t think that makes me selfish for not joining the &#8220;small business&#8221; voting block. On the contrary, I think the world would be better off if we all, as small business owners, voted our social and political and economic consciences, not our narrowly-focused business interest. </p>
<p>But then &#8212; chuckling &#8212;  as Anita suggests, I&#8217;ve been a left-coast person all my life, I still am, and I can&#8217;t help it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I think you&#039;re right that small biz owners don&#039;t think of themselves as, or vote as, a group, this seems to be an example of the pundits, campaigns, etc. putting a label where there might not be one because:

1. There are something like 26 million small businesses in the U.S. Even if you take just the owners, that&#039;s a large part of the voting block. (A little over 4x that number voted in the 2004 presidential election).
 2. Perhaps more importantly, pundits, campaigns, etc. see the same study data the rest of us see: SMBs drive our economy. In fact, the smallest of the small appear to lubricate its gears even while medium and large companies perform poorly and shed jobs (see http://tinyurl.com/6zo9vs).

I think mainly for these two reasons, we&#039;ll continue to see SMB owners called out as a group, including having positions thrust upon them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I think you&#8217;re right that small biz owners don&#8217;t think of themselves as, or vote as, a group, this seems to be an example of the pundits, campaigns, etc. putting a label where there might not be one because:</p>
<p>1. There are something like 26 million small businesses in the U.S. Even if you take just the owners, that&#8217;s a large part of the voting block. (A little over 4x that number voted in the 2004 presidential election).<br />
 2. Perhaps more importantly, pundits, campaigns, etc. see the same study data the rest of us see: SMBs drive our economy. In fact, the smallest of the small appear to lubricate its gears even while medium and large companies perform poorly and shed jobs (see <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6zo9vs" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6zo9vs</a>).</p>
<p>I think mainly for these two reasons, we&#8217;ll continue to see SMB owners called out as a group, including having positions thrust upon them.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Blum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Blum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe many small business owners think with a &quot;me&quot; type of attitude because of the island that they live on. Considering that 99% of small businesses don&#039;t reach revenues of 1 million dollars, this suggests a huge failure rate. While all businesses can fail for a variety of reasons, unfortunately, what small business owners don&#039;t know, they don&#039;t know. Small business owners need to reach out and get help. I would highly suggest John Assarof and Murray Smith&#039;s new book &quot;The Answer.&quot; The insights are amazing - they talk about how important it is to define and understand the pyschographics and demographics of your ideal client. They also mention how too many failed business ventures focussed too much on the &quot;trivial many&quot; and not the &quot;important few.&quot; I think we&#039;ve all been guilty of this at some point. The link is below:

http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?rta=blog

Thoughts anybody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe many small business owners think with a &#8220;me&#8221; type of attitude because of the island that they live on. Considering that 99% of small businesses don&#8217;t reach revenues of 1 million dollars, this suggests a huge failure rate. While all businesses can fail for a variety of reasons, unfortunately, what small business owners don&#8217;t know, they don&#8217;t know. Small business owners need to reach out and get help. I would highly suggest John Assarof and Murray Smith&#8217;s new book &#8220;The Answer.&#8221; The insights are amazing &#8211; they talk about how important it is to define and understand the pyschographics and demographics of your ideal client. They also mention how too many failed business ventures focussed too much on the &#8220;trivial many&#8221; and not the &#8220;important few.&#8221; I think we&#8217;ve all been guilty of this at some point. The link is below:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?rta=blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?rta=blog</a></p>
<p>Thoughts anybody?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting a group of people to agree on anything is almost impossible.  As for running a business, everyone has their personal preference and opinions.  I think age definitely has something to do with it.  Younger more inexperienced business owners are less likely to agree with choices &amp; opinions made by more mature &amp; experienced owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting a group of people to agree on anything is almost impossible.  As for running a business, everyone has their personal preference and opinions.  I think age definitely has something to do with it.  Younger more inexperienced business owners are less likely to agree with choices &amp; opinions made by more mature &amp; experienced owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Campbell</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/06/the-downturn-article.html#comment-569617</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B Smith,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I think that we probably have traits in common that drive some common political views. That doesn&#039;t mean we vote in blocks, just that we start to have similar positions.&quot; &lt;/i&gt; 

I agree with this!  As a business owner, you have to be thinking about things like regulatory burden and tax bite because they have an impact on your ability to stay in business and grow.  Without businesses, there will be no tax revenues.

But I also get what Tim&#039;s saying.

For instance, I have come to realize that business owners tend to identify with the social and political environment around them.  

Business owners that I speak with on the coasts tend to be much more OK with things like taxes than business owners in places like small-town Ohio.

Business owners on the U.S. southern border states are more senstive to immigration issues than business owners in places like small-town Ohio, which are not affected by immigration nearly as much.

Tim, I guess that goes to prove the point:  it&#039;s not easy to lump everyone together in one homogenous group, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B Smith,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I think that we probably have traits in common that drive some common political views. That doesn&#8217;t mean we vote in blocks, just that we start to have similar positions.&#8221; </i> </p>
<p>I agree with this!  As a business owner, you have to be thinking about things like regulatory burden and tax bite because they have an impact on your ability to stay in business and grow.  Without businesses, there will be no tax revenues.</p>
<p>But I also get what Tim&#8217;s saying.</p>
<p>For instance, I have come to realize that business owners tend to identify with the social and political environment around them.  </p>
<p>Business owners that I speak with on the coasts tend to be much more OK with things like taxes than business owners in places like small-town Ohio.</p>
<p>Business owners on the U.S. southern border states are more senstive to immigration issues than business owners in places like small-town Ohio, which are not affected by immigration nearly as much.</p>
<p>Tim, I guess that goes to prove the point:  it&#8217;s not easy to lump everyone together in one homogenous group, is it?</p>
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