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		<title>By: Here He Goes Again &#124; Truhst</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-650850</link>
		<dc:creator>Here He Goes Again &#124; Truhst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a while back about one such professor, Dr. Scott Shane of Case Western, who argued that entrepreneurship education is misguided as entrepreneurship [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Independent Street : Don't Expect Entrepreneur Programs to Spur Local Growth</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-610799</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Street : Don't Expect Entrepreneur Programs to Spur Local Growth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entrepreneurship professor Scott Shane says. He writes on SmallBizTrends.com that schools are misguided to think that adding an entrepreneurship program or major will lead to more business formation in their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anita,

Thanks for the reply.  I obviously missed what you were saying, and it&#039;s a valid point.  I think using students in an internship position as an entrepreneur is great in theory, just hard to pull off in practice.  So yes, if you are early-stage and swimming fast, then the last thing you probably need to take on is someone who needs a bunch of training and supervision to add value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anita,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.  I obviously missed what you were saying, and it&#8217;s a valid point.  I think using students in an internship position as an entrepreneur is great in theory, just hard to pull off in practice.  So yes, if you are early-stage and swimming fast, then the last thing you probably need to take on is someone who needs a bunch of training and supervision to add value.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Campbell</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-610744</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,  

Agreed that there&#039;s a big difference between hiring a student intern and educating students to be entrepreneurs.

I interpreted Scott&#039;s point #4 as being narrow and referring to students as a source of labor for other people&#039;s startups:

&quot;... Most students have little of the relevant work experience necessary to help entrepreneurs to start successful companies.&quot; 

I was not suggesting that students should be discouraged from starting their own businesses.  I&#039;m all for startups.  :)

On the contrary, I was answering this point only:  &quot;Who can afford to take on the risk of the students&#039; learning curve?&quot;

Better that students develop work experience on their own startups where they can  learn by making mistakes on their own dime.  Or have them work in large corporations that can afford to train them in a variety of roles.  

But from a startup owner&#039;s standpoint in hiring labor, he or she will have limited money to spend on staffing.  They need employees who can hit the ground running, who will take up little training time from the rest of the limited staff, and can deliver as much or more than the salary they are receiving.

-- Anita

PS, I also agree with you and Jeff Cornwall about going for singles and doubles, and not home runs always.  I&#039;ve written about that many times before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,  </p>
<p>Agreed that there&#8217;s a big difference between hiring a student intern and educating students to be entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>I interpreted Scott&#8217;s point #4 as being narrow and referring to students as a source of labor for other people&#8217;s startups:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; Most students have little of the relevant work experience necessary to help entrepreneurs to start successful companies.&#8221; </p>
<p>I was not suggesting that students should be discouraged from starting their own businesses.  I&#8217;m all for startups.  <img src='http://smallbiztrends.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the contrary, I was answering this point only:  &#8220;Who can afford to take on the risk of the students&#8217; learning curve?&#8221;</p>
<p>Better that students develop work experience on their own startups where they can  learn by making mistakes on their own dime.  Or have them work in large corporations that can afford to train them in a variety of roles.  </p>
<p>But from a startup owner&#8217;s standpoint in hiring labor, he or she will have limited money to spend on staffing.  They need employees who can hit the ground running, who will take up little training time from the rest of the limited staff, and can deliver as much or more than the salary they are receiving.</p>
<p>&#8211; Anita</p>
<p>PS, I also agree with you and Jeff Cornwall about going for singles and doubles, and not home runs always.  I&#8217;ve written about that many times before.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-610688</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this why Cleveland can&#039;t keep up with the entrepreneurial heat wave?  Entrepreneurs come in all shapes and sizes and experiences and ages.  Sorry, but you are behind the times, man.  How much innovation have you prevented with this mindset?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this why Cleveland can&#8217;t keep up with the entrepreneurial heat wave?  Entrepreneurs come in all shapes and sizes and experiences and ages.  Sorry, but you are behind the times, man.  How much innovation have you prevented with this mindset?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks for the awesome information. What was your inspiration to start up your blog? You might want to check out these free excerpts from New York Times bestselling business growth book &quot;The Answer&quot;  www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks for the awesome information. What was your inspiration to start up your blog? You might want to check out these free excerpts from New York Times bestselling business growth book &#8220;The Answer&#8221;  <a href="http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2" rel="nofollow">http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?RTA=web2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a big difference between hiring a student intern and educating students to be successful entrepreneurs.

If I am hiring a student intern to fill a specific functional role then I think it is obvious that student probably won&#039;t have much experience in the role.  After all, that is why they are an intern.

However, if we educate students on entrepreneurial concepts, expose them to regional support networks, get them to participate in business plan competitions then they will self-select the start-up businesses they have not only the passion but the skills to successfully grow.  I think this is why you currently see students predominantly starting technology and service businesses.

I also agree with the point Jeff Cornwall left in his post about homeruns versus singles and doubles.  It is a point I made in my original comment and I&quot;m glad to see someone else agreeing.  Home runs are few and far between.  They are nice when they happen, but you simply can&#039;t build sound regional economic development policies around them.  You can build around lots of small and medium sized businesses.  And who knows - if we focused a bit more on those businesses maybe we could make them even bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a big difference between hiring a student intern and educating students to be successful entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>If I am hiring a student intern to fill a specific functional role then I think it is obvious that student probably won&#8217;t have much experience in the role.  After all, that is why they are an intern.</p>
<p>However, if we educate students on entrepreneurial concepts, expose them to regional support networks, get them to participate in business plan competitions then they will self-select the start-up businesses they have not only the passion but the skills to successfully grow.  I think this is why you currently see students predominantly starting technology and service businesses.</p>
<p>I also agree with the point Jeff Cornwall left in his post about homeruns versus singles and doubles.  It is a point I made in my original comment and I&#8221;m glad to see someone else agreeing.  Home runs are few and far between.  They are nice when they happen, but you simply can&#8217;t build sound regional economic development policies around them.  You can build around lots of small and medium sized businesses.  And who knows &#8211; if we focused a bit more on those businesses maybe we could make them even bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Campbell</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-610443</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to add this point to my comment above:  I don&#039;t want to sound totally negative on interns -- and regrettably it may have come across that way.  

So let me clarify:  I think interns are great for larger established companies, especially those with extensive orientation and training programs for new hires.  My comments were strictly from the perspective of &lt;strong&gt;startups&lt;/strong&gt; hiring students, in relation to Scott&#039;s point #4.

-- Anita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to add this point to my comment above:  I don&#8217;t want to sound totally negative on interns &#8212; and regrettably it may have come across that way.  </p>
<p>So let me clarify:  I think interns are great for larger established companies, especially those with extensive orientation and training programs for new hires.  My comments were strictly from the perspective of <strong>startups</strong> hiring students, in relation to Scott&#8217;s point #4.</p>
<p>&#8211; Anita</p>
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		<title>By: Anita Campbell</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-610441</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree with you Rose -- learning by doing and experience matter greatly.

I&#039;ve looked at hiring student interns, but I&#039;ve found they often are more needy than able to offer assistance to my business.  

Interns seem to work well when hiring for technical positions, but not for more-nuanced  skills.  For instance, I have talked with CEOs of other tech businesses, and some report good experiences with hiring software developers starting as student interns and then bringing them on post-graduation.  But the kind of help that I and many startups need is sales and marketing, and it&#039;s hard to get a big contribution in sales from an intern.  

-- Anita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree with you Rose &#8212; learning by doing and experience matter greatly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at hiring student interns, but I&#8217;ve found they often are more needy than able to offer assistance to my business.  </p>
<p>Interns seem to work well when hiring for technical positions, but not for more-nuanced  skills.  For instance, I have talked with CEOs of other tech businesses, and some report good experiences with hiring software developers starting as student interns and then bringing them on post-graduation.  But the kind of help that I and many startups need is sales and marketing, and it&#8217;s hard to get a big contribution in sales from an intern.  </p>
<p>&#8211; Anita</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Cornwall</title>
		<link>http://smallbiztrends.com/2008/08/the-wrong-reasons-to-support-university-entrepreneurship-programs.html#comment-610439</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respectful offer a different take on this post at my blog The Entrepreneurial Mind:

http://www.drjeffcornwall.com/2008/08/professor-misses-the-point.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respectful offer a different take on this post at my blog The Entrepreneurial Mind:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drjeffcornwall.com/2008/08/professor-misses-the-point.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.drjeffcornwall.com/2008/08/professor-misses-the-point.html</a></p>
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