What Tom Herman Learned from His Movie, Startup.com


In 2001, one of my favorite entrepreneurship movies about the “Dot Com Bubble” in the late 1990’s was called Start up.com. It followed two partners, Tom Herman and Kaleil Tuzman who started Govworks.com. It was the stereotypical start up story of that time where the company rapidly went from idea to VC funding to financial crash.  Where are they now over 20 years later and what can they still learn their experience?

On The Small Business Radio Show this week, one partner, Tom Herman is now the founder and CEO of Meta Carbon which was dreamed up in the back of a Grab Taxi in Singapore.  He’s been building online software for the last 25 years in media and advertising. His latest startup combines sustainability, carbon offsetting, blockchain, NFTs, and brand engagement.

what tom herman learned from his movie startup.com

Tom is not surprised by the enduring popularity of the movie. He adds that “while it doesn’t totally represent what happened in our company, it did represent what happens in VC funded companies.” Tom says he is still struggling with the same challenges at Govworks while building his current company. One is focus; “How do I stay focused when there are so many opportunities out there and funding sources want me to build revenue traction?”

Another challenge is how to be effective business partners; “There are so many benefits and risks.” With Kaleil, he handled the business and Tom worked with the tech. He suggests putting together a “founders’ agreement” where it says what everyone must agree on for major decisions inside the company plus vesting on all founders’ shares; “with this provision, departures of founders then become easier.”

Tom is now building his company, Meta Carbon which is designed for brands to engage their customers on climate change; “People pick the carbon offset by playing a game for the activity they are involved in.” In this way, he helps brands build experiences with digital collectables with that include carbon offsets to meet the sustainable development goals to address climate change.

Listen to the entire interview of Tom and his Startup.com experience on The Small Business Radio Show.

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